♪♪ >> Eric: THE CURRENT "FEEDING OUR FUTURE" TRIAL HAS CONTINUED TO MAKE HEADLINES THIS WEEK.

YESTERDAY FEDERAL PROSECUTORS REVEALED A KEY WITNESS WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST FOUNDER AIMEE BOCK AND ONE OF HER ALLEGED ACCOMPLICES.

THE MONTHS-LONG TRIAL IN THE $250 MILLION SCHEME IS NEARIN A CONCLUSION.

JEFF MEITRODT IS COVERING ONE OF THE LARGEST PICK ERA FRAUD CASES IN THE COUNTRY AND HE DOES THAT FOR THE MINNESOTA STAR TRIBUNE.

TELL US ABOUT THIS POTENTIALLY IMPORTANT TESTIMONY YESTERDAY.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A KEY MOMENT IN THE TRIAL BECAUSE SO FAR THE PROSECUTORS HAVE PRESENTED WHAT'S LARGELY A CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASE.

THEY'VE BEEN ARGUING THAT AIMEE BOCK, THE HEAD OF FEEDING OUR FUTURE, MUST HAVE KNOWN THAT THIS WAS FRAUD BECAUSE THE CLAIMS WERE SO ABSURD, THE NUMBERS WERE CRAZY, NAMES OF THE KIDS WERE RAZY, ALL THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS WERE JUST PATENTLY PHONY.

WHAT THEY HAVEN'T DONE A LOT IS HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN PUT AIMEE BOCK INSIDE A ROOM WITH A COCONSPIRATOR COOKING UP A SCHEME.

AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS WEEK THAT WE FINALLY HAVE SOME WITNESSES THAT HAVE GOTTEN THEM CLOSER TO THAT.

IF NOT ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING IT.

NOW, Mr. HUSSEIN, WHO TESTIFIED YESTERDAY, PROBABLY ONE OF THE STRONGEST WITNESSES SO FAR ON THIS TRIAL.

TOLD A PRETTY COMPELLING STORY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMMIGRANTS WHO SIMPLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKED BEING COACHED BY AIMEE BOCK PERSONALLY IN A SERIES OF TELEPHONE CALLS BEING TOLD EXACTLY HOW TO CHEAT THE SYSTEM AND WHAT SHE EXPECTED IN RETURN, 30,000 BUCKS A MONTH IN CASH.

>> Cathy: SO HE PRETTY MUCH THREW HER UNDER THE BUS.

>> ABSOLUTELY, BUT OF COURSE HE'S FACING FIVE YEARS IN PRISON, HELPING CONVICT HER WILL HELP HIM.

>> Cathy: DO YOU THINK SHE MAY TAKE THE STAND IN HER OWN DEFENSE?

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK SHE WANTS TO.

I SPENT THREE HOURS WITH HER SHORTLY AFTER THE FBI RAIDED HER HOME AND HER OFFICES, AND I GOT TO SAY IF SHE'S GUILTY, SHE'S THE BEST LIAR I'VE EVER MET.

>> Eric: ONE OF THE WITNESSES YESTERDAY I THINK SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT SHE WAS IN IT FOR THE GLORY NOT AS MUCH FOR THE MONEY.

>> YEAH, THERE'S , DO YOU RECALL THAT QUOTE?

IS >> THAT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING I WROTE IN THE STORY.

THE PROSECUTOR THINKS, THOUGH, A LOT OF THIS IS ABOUT NARCISSISM.

THAT, YES, THERE WERE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, A LOT OF SOMALI IMMIGRANTS WHO GOT VERY RICH ON THIS SCHEME, YOU KNOW, THEY BOUGHT CARS, THEY BOUGHT SOME VERY PRICEY REAL ESTATE IN THE UNITED STATES AND OFFSHORE.

SHE DID, SHE'S GOT ABOUT A MILLION, A MILLION THREE IN TOTAL PROCEEDS CCORDING TO THE FEDS, YOU KNOW, LAST ESTIMATE.

WHICH PALES IN COMPARISON TO A LOT OF HER COCONSPIRATORS.

THE THEORY THAT THEY'RE ADVOCATING IS THAT MAYBE SHE WAS REALLY IN IT BECAUSE SHE LOVED THE ATTENTION, SHE LOVED BEING CELEBRATED BY THESE SOMALI COMMUNITY, WHICH CAME OUT AND THREW HER A BIG PARTY AFTER SHE BEAT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IN HER LAWSUIT.

THEY KEPT TRYING TO PUT THE BRAKES ON THIS WHOLE THING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND THROUGH THE TWO YEARS THAT THIS SORT OF SCHEME OPERATED.

SHE WON EVERY COURT BATTLE AND THEY THREW A PARTY, SWEET AIMEE, YOU KNOW, THE WOMAN WHO CAN'T BE, I THINK IT WAS THE WOMAN WHO CAN'T BE INTERFERED WITH OR TOUCHED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SUGGESTING SHE WAS INVINCIBLE.

AND THEY'VE PLAYED THAT VIDEO FOR THE JURY SEVERAL TIMES AND IT'S QUITE AN IMAGE.

>> Eric: WHAT DOES THE GOVERNMENT HAVE TO PROVE HERE?

IS IT A CONSPIRACY CASE, OR?

>> IT'S A FRAUD CASE, IT'S A CONSPIRACY CASE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL CHARGES AGAINST HER.

I'M SURE THE GOVERNMENT WANTS A WIN ON ALL OF THEM.

THEY'VE ARGUABLY PRESENTED EVIDENCE THAT COVERS ALL OF THE CHARGES, BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE KEY WITNESSES ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PLED GUILTY TO VERY SIGNIFICANT CRIMINAL CHARGES, THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEIR CREDIBILITY.

>> Cathy: WHAT IS WITH THIS PARTICULAR SERIES OF TRIALS, AND I WONDER BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING OFF AIR, WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN, YEAH, WITNESS TAMPERING, YOU HAD THE ONE INDIVIDUAL GIVING A JUROR A BAG OF MONEY.

I MEAN, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A CRAZY SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THIS WHOLE ISSUE.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE DO YOU THINK?

>> YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE THE ELEPHANT'S IN THE ROOM.

A LOT OF THESE CONSPIRATORS COME FROM SOMALIA.

SOMALIA RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY CONSIDERED ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT NATIONS IN THE WORLD, WERE BAGS OF MONEY PERHAPS EXCHANGED HANDS?

ROUTINE.

SO THERE MAY BE A LITTLE OF THAT CULTURAL THING SORT OF CREEPING IN HERE WHERE THE LINES THAT WE CONSIDER SORT OF SACROSANCT IN AMERICA GET CROSSED BY PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER HAD THAT MUCH EXPERIENCE, IF ANY, WITH OUR COURT SYSTEM, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THE RULES ARE PLAYED.

THEY MAY SIMPLY BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN, TO THEM AN INNOCENT CONVERSATION, EY, I WANT TO GO INTO THE BATHROOM AND TALK ABOUT THIS WITH MY FRIEND HERE, I'M NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE'S GOING TO SAY BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS.

IT'S POSSIBLE THERE IS AN INNOCENT EXPLANATION FOR THIS.

AT THE SAME TIME IT'S VERY POSSIBLE HE WANTED TO SCARE THIS GUY OUT OF TESTIFYING.